I believe stability and the way to find the truth ......... hear, think, check the evidence and clarify ...... not only listen to somebody who is good in talking. 
Rational but not Radical because we are MALAYSIAN. 

wtl wrote: 
To anyone who cares to read....welcome!!!! Anyone wishes to know what happeneed betwwen the real stuff and the cyberelection? Well..... Datuk's supporters are real acquaintances - loyalty to stability...and the old ones not tuned into the cyber world, as such his net supporters were bad Tan Sri's supporters most probably are the young ones very at home with IT. Too bad......cyberopinions do not count. So similarly....cyberopinions in the Anwar's issue will meet the same fate.I believe when the next election comes .......it will still be 2/3rd !!!!! Good or not????? Comments? 
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From: heartbeats@NewMail.Net
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 02:13:53 Gmt +2:00
Subject: Suggestions

Three suggestions:

1. To attract more people in joining the cause, we must listen to what they have in mind. It is crucial that we provide them with a way to leave their comments. If we include "Comment box" (powered by cgi/perl script) or a bulletin-board type of facility, people will perceive
us as a caring group, not just an interest group.

2. I find that the campaigns by pahlawan/bosses groups are not properly planned and executed. If more time is available in the planning stage, campaigns like "Boss Declaration" can be better executed, with a better coverage, and could even have a "Follow-up" session or two.

3. There is no "Follow up" (or post-mortem) for the campaign. The "Follow up" sessions are important since they can provide clues for us to see where we have failed, where we can use an improvement or two, how we should we improve, and what other available resources that we can tapped into.

Suggestions #2 and #3 may not be directly related to the current vote-taking campaign, but it is important nevertheless.

Sorry for being too technical, but I think if we are to push forwards ideas that we think the people should know, we must stop the ad-hoc style of event-launches we current use.

Thanks for giving me this chance to say what I think.

Sincerely,
Bob
hardwork@freemail.c3.hu
heartbeats@newmail.net

Pahlawan's reply:
We are volunteers --  just pick up and run.
Wish some "Santa Claus" will give us a big chunk of money to do social work. Then we can hire professional staff. In the meanitme, live with our amateurish work, and expect us to call on you for FREE advice and support. :)
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From: how kim chai <hkc69@hotmail.com>
To: pahlawan@egroups.com <pahlawan@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 25 September 1999 22:33
Subject: [Pahlawan Link Partners] more information for english educated chinese

I am one of the many chinese who do not read mandarin.
Therefore I had very little knowledge of all these issues; Hua Tuan, Hua Zhong, FCAM etc
I strongly believe this large group of chinese had been neglected and for Malaysian Chinese to be more succesful and united, the 
so-called president of all this association must also convince people like me and others before they can claim their view represent
the chinese.

Suggestion: Come up with an English version of newsletter or better if newspaper so that people like me can understand more and participate.

Pls consider my suggestion.

Pahlawan's reply:
Your constructive feedback will be forwarded to the relevant persons-in-charge in the associations for their consideration and action. In addition to that, as responsible citizens, we should all make an effort to give constructive feedback to the relevant authorities whatever you see wrong e.g. report public toilets and phones not working, bad service, burst water pipes, etc. :)
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From: wtl <wtl@tm.net.my>
To: pahlawan@egroups.com <pahlawan@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 25 September 1999 22:21
Subject: [Pahlawan Link Partners] my views

Huazong cannot pursue her goals feverishly without considering the complexities of the Malaysian society. I believe Huazong understands the importance of maintaining a  balance of sorts and that "power" cannot cometh from the power of the fists as history has proven that nobody likes to yield with a finger pointed at them. It's better and more rational (the Malaysian way) to talk sense and compromise on issues then pursueing a course of confrontation,ultimatum, mistrust and etc etc... I believe we have to accept the realities of the Malaysian contex. 
The present Govt and Huazong are doing fine, although things can still be better........ keep on talking..... the time will come when a globalised community will not be talking in terms of boundaries, color, religion, culture etc etc.

I'm happy with the present day status quo.....as long as we have sensible leaders who will keep on making things better....The Win Win thing.

Damai2u 

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